Hello BBay fam..
Im gonna try to keep this update as fast and short as possible. for those of you whom know me,, that means it may turn out quite long.. Ill try to keep it short though and stay low on the tangents..
OKay..
So..
I popped a good amount of seed, some was killed by catpiss (mostly Pineapple gear.. PineQueen V2, PineSmurf, Pynamite x Shimla; a few other things, just didnt want to grow, a few I messed up and broke a couple tails while trying to unshell some thick indy dom strains' shells..
Im pissed as that cat killed all my PineSmurf, all PineQueen, and the other Pinequeen I tried didnt fare well.
I do have 1 SnowQueen, and 4 Rollin 88's (2 GHash pheno, 2 pheno#2), and 3 [(Kalishnapple x Pure Goooey) x Kona Sunset)]. Im looking very forward to those.. I love the UK Pineapple.. I have a single pre98 Bubba x Shimla V1, going.. looks pretty broad leaf indica dom(as expected).. just a sonic seeds old line in relation.
So I had quite a few seeds die.. thats why I pop more than needed, then a second round of things that I don't have even 3 of that need more.
Then more strains, which I have some just transplanted in the last 2 days, including the new SSDD hybrids by Bodhi..
I have a good amount up though..
Loran, Sonic, Sin City, Strayfox, Bodhi, me, Dynasty.. (I have my SROG & Lovin Cup keepers, out of the 8+ cuts, including TEr & Snow Leopard, and more, only got those 2 back(from a friend?), which Im happy, as I have only 1-2 SROG beans left and that of 4 females was a tie between the best 2 and decided the keeper, as it was prettier and more exotic in teropene profile, both indica dom even though.. ..more stuff too
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SO, genetics currently running (15 Breeders total I think)
So Lets try and get a count on what we have going total of the 2 rounds..
The first round is anywhere from node 3 to 8, and most, depending will be topped or FIM'd tomorrow.. Also the Salmon River OG and Lovin Cup will be clonesd in the next few days..
I want to get cuts off as many ass possible..
I have just set up my AC unit, and am filling my tank tomorrow to have a definite sufficient supply of CO2, and start a compost tea soon, and transplant some of the cupped plants early of better strains, know females, and maybe altus and put them Oudtodors.
So, of the 2 rounds, at least whats going, up, alive and healthy.. the second round is only on the first pair of true leaves and will be transplanted tomorrow as teyre getting stretchy and finally have enough roots poking out to plant.
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Round 1: (42 total as of 6/14/16)
Clones: Salmon River OG, Lovin Cup - both by Dynasty in 5L pots of soil mix, mulched(bark). Also layered(TLO style)
All Seedling from here on::: (in 20oz cups of soil mix, unmulched)
1- HSO fem'd mix pack bean (one of biggest and healthiest I have at this age.)
1- "Godfire" (Asgard x Lightnin') by Loran
3- "Black Dog" [Chocolate Diesel x Old Toby (pre98 bubba x Shadawg{Chem4bx})] by Loran
2- "(Qush #4 x Goji OG)" by me/Half-step
4- "Crater Lake V5" (SSH f2 x Huckleberry 2015) - by Dynasty
1- "Honey Badger Haze" (C99/WW x Ms. Universe #10)
4- "Ghostrider OG" [The White x Lucifer OG (Hells OG x SFV bx2)] by Trichome Jungle
2- "White Sumo" (Sumo Tangie x White OG V2) by Karma genetics
2- "Rollin' '88, Ghash pheno" (Tranquil Elephantizer remix x SnowQueen) by strayfox
2- "Rollin' '88, pheno#2" (TEr x SQ male B) by strayfox
3- [(KaliSchnapple x Pure Gooey) x Kona Sunset] by strayfox
3- Random Autos - (got 3 females of 4-5 seeds that came up 2-3 more in second batch in earlier stages) -unknown breeder(s)
2- "East Coast Purple Diesel" aka 'ECPD' (ECSD x Double Purple Doja f4) by Outlaw/IrishPride
1- (pre98 Bubba x Shimla v1) by Sonic (line from sonic's first Shimla male from 08?)
2- "Blue Power" [(Sour Double x Master Kush) x White Nightmare (The White x Blue Moonshine)] (another in second batch) by Sin City Seeds
2- "Grandma's Sugar Cookies" (GSC forum x Black Sugar Berry{Plushberry x Black Domina}) by Johnston Genetics
2- "GDPPBC" aka 'Grand Daddy Platinum Purp Berry Cookies' [LungCandyV1 (Plat GSC x GDP) x Black Sugar Berry] by Johnston Genetics
3- (NorCal Gooey x Dark Cross) aka "Dark Goo / Dark Gooey" (dubbed by myself.. testers, un-named, by Gooeybreeder .. Gooey??
2 "Queen of Hearts" (Killer Queen -G13dom x Deadhead OG) by NorStar Genetics
that totals.. 42 plants.. ..21 strains.. ..15 breeders (14 not counting myself, 15 creators) ..so far..
So Round 2..
All Seedlings, getting leggy and stretchy, in plugs.. going in cups tomorrow, currently all in plugs, anywhere from 1.5-3" tall. roots coming out a good amount, ready for transplant.
So, on with the show
3- (WiFi x SunShineDayDream) by Bodhi
3- [Black Triangle (Triangle Kush x '88 GHash {NL dom}) bodhi's cut x SSDD]
1- "SnowQueen" (PineQueen x Snow Lotus)
2- "Super Silver Yo Mama" (Yo Mama x SSH).. this older line, old killer parents both long dead by Bodhi(25 packs of this ever made.. I bet you couldn't get more no matter how hard you tried unless you kept this line since release.. would be smart.. ) I have a killer JH cut, hity w/ a YM father, Im hoping can be an OX for this, if I can't F2, or do both I love YM lines.. I love SSH lines.. I had a live female seedling that my same buddy w/ the clones was supposed to care for.. he killed my 3 Rollin 88 GHash pheno females, never yet flowered, just sexed, slog with the only YM/SSH.. 25 packs ever made of 2 of the best breeding plants Ive come across in anybody's lines. ANyways.. I have 2, Im sure if I even have 1 female of any of the lines, they'll be keeper worthy.. thats why Im running some of them, and massive variety.. oh.. I am a ***** for variety..
3- (More random autos, unsexed as of yet).. from same batch as first, unknown breeders.. 3 mixed all together . I don't care, just want a small early OD crop..iif I find a good looking male of the 3 seeds left.. I had an okay looking one from first round, but Id like to have more auto beans, as Im like out.. then find a really nice male, hit to a couple really fast good cuts, then bx them for my own fast production early OD resistant line.
1- "Kushage" (OG#18 x SAGE) - SAGE is Sativa Afghani Equilibrium w/ the old school BSHB hit w/ a pure Afghan indica, which was a good line. also ra dominator, another sage line, ws nice if you like Jack lines.. .. I had a 5pack of fem'd Kushage.. 1st grew fine, great pheno, I didnt clone it.. next 2 seeds in a row were duds.. do I have 1 left after this one, hoping this comes out good. probably an OD plant, Im thinking now to many better regs to keep IDs..
1- "Grandma's Sugar Cookies" (GSC x BSB) (makes 3 total of this line w/ the ones in first run).. I want a good GSC dom fem. by SinCity
1- "Godfire" , as above, by Loran, to have at least 2, as some died. Im mad.. this sounds great.. (not doing well.. has roots coming out the cube but refuses to start a true pair of leaves, but looks healthy otherwise.. its like 2 weeks old, everything is on true pair #2-3, this just has big cotyledons and gets taller. A mystery to me.
3- "321 Kush" [(Triple OGK/DPD) x (GDP/DPD)] by Digger .. I ran this, great line..
Ill put up some pics of everything useful.
May be the only line Ive run, oh and the mom the the Qush.. Ill put them in another post after this.. heres my update for info on the current grow.. Im gonna find whatever pics and continue updating this thread, then Im gonna start a new one w/ a link to this I think..
So, I gave them a good dose of some things to strengthen them and green them up, help with the stress, usually don't use liquid nuts, but I do have them on hand mostly for compost teas and for early/end life immediately needed nutes.
All my round 1 plants have gotten much healthier, and the 2nd rond is nice, all just need a transplant now.. they're way to tall and stretchy to what I prefer, but Ive already been putting them under the sun most the day so its been helping keeping them short..
They'll either have to be single cola SOG style plants or naturally grown ODs.
I really wanna run the Yo Mama x SSH & SSDD x's IDs, and would have loved to those 3, but we'll see.. I will try to collect pollen from certain things if I get good looking males of certain strains.
All of the seedlings are just getting microbes via the Root stimulator product from Microbe Life hydro products.. and everything has also been given a small dose of a bottle compost tea, more microbes & small full spectrum nutes(un bubbled nbut shaken slurry of vermicompost vermilife organics tea recipe, light), Calmag and Rare Earth (Si & trace elements).. the last things just once each. mostly just water.
.. So thats the update on my garden..
I am helping a close friend with his first garden.. former roommate of my own and lived with me for a year of growing, and one of my friends for about 3-4 months , also a grower, but very different style even though close to organic.. So he's learned and seen a good amount coming into his first grow, and Im supplying him w/ genetics and help and info.. sharing some things to make this first run go smoother for him..
So We decided for his closet style setup, we decided cleaning and half white paint, half mylar/reflecytive material is the way to run both the 2 rooms, 1 of which is currently operational and is the flowering room, but for first run are being begged there too..
SO we are sharing some stuff and he bought a few things like soil, his own light obviously, got a SunSystem (I Like their gear), 4x4 T5 system, all 6500K 54W HO bublbs other than a single Hortilux PowerVEG T5 HO to add better spectrum.. bloom will be 2 PowerVEG and 2 3000K bulbs. Started under 6500K 23W CFLs.. My favorite seedling and cloning bulbs cuz they work and Im cheap when I can get away with it. Anyway.. I've flowered multiple bushes under CFLs and fluorescents my first ID grow room.. was a bit ridiculous w/ 800W of CFLs and T12/T8s in a 4x8 closet, lol.
Anyway.. I got him 2 (3 Kings OG x SSDD) by Bodhi going.. he killed off a Swt#4 IBL I gave him along w/ his bag seed found- S1s each from Cherrygasm and GG#4. I gave him a few C99 f3s from brother monk.. a bit old.. only 1 popped for him and hasn't come above ground..
So yesterday I gave him 2 of my 321Kush seedlings.. Im gonna end up giving him 2-5 of my bigger seedlings as I have too many especially addingn the smaller ones..
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SO, right now they're in a custom soil mix, as the ones getting transplanted tomorrow are also going in the same mix..
its between 2 mix's I made months ago(3+ brands bagged + amended each), some roots organics, fox farm Ocean Forrest, Vermicrop Organics Vermisoil, , coco, castings, perlite. great stuff.
So thats basically my seedling mix..
The veg mix is similar the clones are in but less added perlite and coco, some added hot soil I have cooked..
The rest ail have both VermiSoil and VermiFire soil in the mix also, and gonna get a bag of VermiLife, and some Dr Earth soil..
These are basically all the ingredients that might go, all do somewhere (but for example, no Vermifire in Seedling mix, less coco & perlite added to flowering mix, basically maximum microbes and 3 different levels of strength of soil.. seedling, veg, bloom/hot)
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I basically water with composite teas around just filtered water..
I used a mix of 2:1-3:2 distilled:spring waters, and then Ill use filtered (good water filter no RO membrane atm.. a little dissolved Ca, Mg, Fe, doesn't hurt the plants.. th carbon/charcoal takes plenty care of the chlorine/chloramines that would piss off my microbes..
Everything is about to get another heavy (what I call structural elements) Ca, Mg, Si, K, trace elements.. all in compost tea . with all the microbe products I have used, and hit well to all to strengthen to cells and plenty nutes and healthy microbes to protect from the bad.
I am about to transplant my small seedlings, all at around 2-4" w/ 2 -3(starting) true leaves, but still just can only be considered small seedlings..
They'll all go in 16-20oz cups, depending whats laying around..
Most my cups in my main room are ready to be transplanted, so Ill put some either in 1-5 gal containers depending if they're going out, staying in, etc..
Im looking at either 1/2 gal bags if iI can find them, or maybe just 5x5" pots for the OD plants to get bigger before their final transplant, or just 1 gals w/ a 1" of plastic folded down. Some are going direct to ground..
Im putting my 3 auto females I have into the ground all in 1 hole, as they won't get big, won't have tons of roots and can totally share a hole..
Ill probably put the female HSO random strain out, and maybe the double Rollin 88 #2, White Sumo.. a few others I think will be good ODs.. Im thinking Honey Badger Haze.. Crater Lake..
Its gonna be really tough to decide on like 8-10 plants to keep, and that may be including the 2 big clones.. I could put the Lovin Cup ODs, and get a big yield from that.. it would be neatly if I got it out there after taking 5-6 cuts, I know 3-4 will take. at least.. Anyway..
Everything has been sprayed w/ spinosad twice, "Captain Jack's Dead Bug Brew", by BONIDE, .. anybody know if its still good after stored in freezing temps over winter, especially since its a biological ? Ill just research bacteria and what temps kill them.. I know 130+ for heat, but don't know cold off top gof head, thought it may just put them in stasis.
Anybody that knows this would be much appreciated.
I think I saw a tiny spider mite web on the 1 plant , never had mites.. always am as proactive as possible, but the space gives me the question alone, as in where is located, and the rest of the property the grow isn't in that could easily contaminate, maybe.. I did 1 full grow one other time here, and had no problems.. so just saying.
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The full room, unfinished.. about a week ago.
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[/url ]2 clones in front- SROG left, & LC on right, half(about, the seedling from round 1 on the bin.
The other half of seedlings on the table...
The tray of the newer(round2) seedling, I had top pop after...
..I had to pop after getting these.. they need to be run.. all 3 are now growing.
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Thats is for today.. took like 3-4 days to find the time to do this thread, and its kinda just an update ion an old one, but lots more info and new pics..
The other won't be updated..
This I don't know.. I may update 1-2 x, but I will eventually break them into ID/ODs threads..
.Anyone that had ran ANY of these lines, and has any advise, i'de love to hear it..
Im still really trying to decide what to of outside.. Im thinking the dankest of dank stay in.. the ones a bit more resistant, faster, and won't fit inside, will go out..
Any guidance or opinions are welcome.
Thanks guys..
A lot of what I'm running is new.. so I don't have pics of them.. but I do have pics of my Qush mom, my 321 Kush keeper I ran before, I don't know where my Kushage pics are.. Ill look through my pics and see if theres anything that helps..
Okay, these next 2 are different angles of the same pheno, from seed(both same plant), my keeper of SROG.. one w/, one w/out flash? they look a bit different other than frostiness, but I sure you, they're the same..
(Either ISPs "Chem '91 bx2 f2" or my 'Silverfunk' (Chem D/SSH x Goji OG) (i think mixed up and mislabeled, very similar in structure from seed run, totally both changed in clone runs..) The Silverfunk was sick.. the first pheno of any female from that Goji male from summer 14.. same thing I hit my Qush #4 (TGA Qush is pre98Bubba/SpaceQueen.. #4, is the keeper of 3 phenos of 5 seeds. mad I didnt f2.. my favorite %50 bubba hybrid to date, tied w/ Tigers milk if you count the katsu cut and pre98 afghani cut the same, which these 2 are not.
"Qush" #4 by TGA (pre98 bubba kush x Space Queen aka space dude [romulan/c99]]) ..this I have 2 going of of hit with the Goji OG male (Nepali OG x Snow Lotus)
The first 3 are from clone(HPS) (Summer '14), the last is from seed(HPS/MH) (Winter '13) {Pure Qush#4, not the Goji hybrid.. thats just now being tested the first time}
This is the 321Kush by Digger, 2 Outlaw lines.. great combo.. also have this hit with Goji but running more pure.
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Okay.. I decided Im gonna add a pole to this thread, for strains to be left indoors..
I think I will list 6, not counting the Salmon River OG, and Lovin Cup, which will most like;ly both be left in.. the SROG, %100..
I want to keep 5+ lines other than the 2 clones.. minimum..
So, Im gonna list some lines that I think I want to run and should keep indoors the most..
Maybe you guys agree maybe not.. Ill list an other option, for those who vote to put in in a response, what they think the best ID lines are..
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THE POLE
This is for lines I want to keep inside, as in the most badass dankest lines.. these all have to soley do with quality, not yield, or anything else just potency.. and dankness.. and I prefer indicas dom lines.. or at least effects..
Lets see Godfire, Black Dog, WiFi/SSDD, Black Triangle/SSDD, SSYM, Blue Power, Grandma's Sugar Cookies, GDPPBC, Ghostrider OG, Queen of Hearts, (Qush#4 x Goji OG)
Thats 11.. So got for what you think you would want the most indoors, and why if you want to post up something.. feel free.. I am always down for others opinions and input.
I welcome the people that call me an idiot for having 50 seeds of 15, (didnt actually just count), but anyway.. for that being my style.. I figure, Im used to good gear, 3 beans gives like 1-2 females, and 1 should be good, that Ill keep, if I really really like it, Ill pop more, or if I lose that one.. things like SSYM.. Ill pop another..
I've run many SSH hybrids and in pure form from a couple different breeders, and one of the best purchased bags I ever got was of SSH in 2001 at a "Phil & Friends" concert in Columbus, Ohio.. that 1/4 oz I got was bigger in volume than most full oz.'s Ive gotten.. crazy amazing.. strait hash plant. %50 trichomes per weight. Anyway..
That.. and Ive had a few different Yo Mama hybrids now that Im SO in love with, have very few beans left, cuts died, as I put in flower over a year ago, before making sure the cuts took.. seemed good after a week, weren't.. took like 4 days into bloom, they just are so hard for me to root when in bloom even if not showing.
So, thats about it for this thread, I think.. Ill add if I think it needs it.
-peace
Half-step