i see a list was released a couple weeks ago...

hmm..idk...its good and im sure some helpful, but unless they test all the flowers for avid residue and ick i know that ppl will do whatever they think...anyone know what the current policy is? i dont go to disps and hesitate to even sample herb from them for partly this reason..

https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/agp...on-information

heres the pdf list

https://www.colorado.gov/pacific/sit...%206-29-16.pdf

maybe it can be some suggestion for milder products ppl havent heard of

Cannabis Capitalist: Scotts Miracle-Gro CEO Bets Big On Pot Growers


This story appears in the July 26, 2016 issue of Forbes
Scotts Miracle-Gro CEO Jim Hagedorn is gambling $400 million to reach a burgeoning market of customers: pot growers. Photo by Stephen Webster.

Strapped into the pilot’s seat of his private jet, Scotts Miracle-Gro CEO Jim Hagedorn thrusts the throttle forward and hurtles down the runway, a typical start to the day for the former F-16 fighter pilot, who commutes 500 miles from his home on Long Island, N.Y. to his office outside Columbus, Ohio. For an hour and a half every morning and every afternoon, Hagedorn sits behind the control stick of his plane, pushes the seat back and lets his mind run wild.

His latest idea: “Invest, like, half a billion in the pot business,” he yells over the roar of two engines powering his camouflaged Cessna Citation. “It is the biggest thing I’ve ever seen in lawn and garden.”

No one has a better perspective on the lawn and garden business than Hagedorn, who, after watching his father build Miracle-Gro into a national brand, orchestrated its merger with Scotts in 1995 and took over as CEO of the combined company in 2001. Scotts Miracle-Gro, which makes almost all of its money selling grass seed, fertilizer, pesticide and dirt, boosted revenues 80% from 2001 to 2009, riding on the coattails of Home Depot, Lowe’s and Wal-Mart as the retailers built more than 3,000 big boxes across the country. But then the Great Recession hit, and the rapid expansion stalled. Scotts Miracle-Gro’s sales have been stagnant ever since. That hit home for Hagedorn and his family, who collectively own a 27% stake that makes up $1.1 billion of their nearly $1.5 billion fortune. Frustrated with the flatlining business, Hagedorn fired more than half his management, shook up his board and gambled heavily on pot growers.

That controversial decision was made one day in 2013 in Yakima, Wash., when Hagedorn wandered into a garden center. The store had hardly any Scotts merchandise, but there was a massive row of equipment for hydroponics, a method of growing that allows people to cultivate cannabis (or any other plant, for that matter) indoors, using targeted lighting and liquid solutions spiked with nutrients. Hagedorn asked to see the store owner, and out walked a short guy with wild hair and a lazy eye. He told Hagedorn that everyone called him an idiot when he first started selling hydroponics equipment, but the stuff was flying off the shelves, with an average receipt of $400–straight cash. It was a starkly different scene from what he’d just witnessed at a Home Depot across town, which had plenty of Scotts Miracle-Gro products but no hydroponics equipment. “Two worlds, same town. I came back, and I told everyone ‘We’re doing it,’ ” Hagedorn recalls. “ If you don’t like it, leave. We’re doing it. It’s beyond stopping. And we’re not getting into pot growing. We’re talking dirt, fertilizer, pesticides, growing systems, lights. You know it’s a multibillion-dollar business, and we’ve got no growth in our core. Are you guys stupid?”


Hagedorn is backing up his big talk with serious cash. He shelled out $135 million last year on two California-based businesses that sell fertilizers, soils and accessories to pot growers, recently spent another $120 million on a still-undisclosed lighting and hydroponics equipment company in Amsterdam and promises to invest about another $150 million by the end of 2016. Altogether, the deals are bigger than the largest single acquisition in the history of Scotts Miracle-Gro, which takes in $160 million of profit on $3 billion in sales annually.

“For a lot of conventional companies, I don’t think they’d want to take the risk,” says Hagedorn, a short, bald 60-year-old with sharp blue eyes. “I mean I’ve talked to some other friends and CEOs who basically shake their head.”

Among the dissenters is Carl Kohrt, one of six Scotts Miracle-Gro board members to step down in the past three years. “I’m not personally a supporter of the marijuana business,” says Kohrt. “Things change. Laws have changed. Interests have changed. Some personal values have not changed–mine included.”
Values aside, the drug industry is a legal minefield.

The federal government still labels cannabis as a Schedule I drug under the Controlled Substances Act, in the same class as heroin and LSD. But 25 states now allow medical marijuana, and 4 (plus the District of Columbia) have passed laws permitting recreational use. In 2013 the Obama Administration issued a memo deferring marijuana regulation to states, while at the same time reserving the federal government’s right to prosecute offenders in the future and challenge the states at any time (perhaps, say, if a new president is elected).

GROWING UP, Jim Hagedorn thought business was boring. His father, Horace, a onetime Madison Avenue adman, cofounded Miracle-Gro in 1951 and spent much of his time on the telephone talking about numbers and marketing plans. Jim was a horrible student who didn’t care about his schoolwork but spent study halls going through encyclopedias cover to cover.

His older sister Susan joined the Weathermen, a left-wing terror organization that bombed the Pentagon and the U.S. Capitol (she was not involved in either). After she was arrested for conspiracy to commit arson during a riot in Massachusetts, Horace Hagedorn headed north from Long Island to try to get his daughter off the hook. (She ended up serving two years’ probation.) While Horace was gone, Jim, then 15, threw a massive “pot party,” as he terms it, inviting over hordes of young people to get high.

His father returned earlier than expected, walked into the ongoing party and burst into a fit of rage. Fearing for his safety, Jim called the police. (“As bad a kid as I was, he never hit me. I thought he was going to kill me this day,” he recalls.) The cops arrived at the door, and when Horace went down to answer it, Jim walked out of the house. He didn’t return for another two years.

Hagedorn lived on radical communes, surrounded by guns and drugs. He and his gang of friends stole anything they wanted as their lives spiraled out of control. “Did I do drugs?” Hagedorn asks rhetorically. “I didn’t do heroin–I viewed heroin as a drug that poor addicts use–but when it came to hallucinogenics and speed and marijuana, cocaine. Hell, yes.”

After a girlfriend broke his heart, he stumbled home to try to piece his life back together. His father made a donation to a boarding school in Vermont, and the school admitted Jim, by then 17, to its freshman class. Not long after, Hagedorn decided he wanted to be a professional pilot and headed to Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Daytona Beach, Fla. After enrolling he took the Air Force Officer Qualifying Test, a military version of the SAT. To his surprise, he nearly aced the exam and the school offered him a full ride. Hagedorn’s father had promised all his children that if they earned scholarships, he would give them half of what they saved him. Hagedorn took the money and bought a BMW 5 Series.

Six months into flight training an Air Force major stared down 30 students. “I want everybody who wants to kill people to sit on one side,” Hagedorn recalls him saying. “And I want everybody who is going to fly the killer’s toilet paper around to sit on the other side.” The major walked up to him and asked him to choose his fate. Hagedorn wanted only to be an airline pilot; he was certain the aerobatics of flying fighter jets would make him sick. But so did the idea of being subservient to anyone. “Kill people, sir,” he answered. He flew fighters for seven years during the Cold War. In 1987 Hagedorn left the Air Force as a captain and interviewed at his family’s business, where his father asked him what role he saw himself taking at the company. He responded by saying there was only one job that he wanted–his father’s. Hagedorn was willing to learn the ropes for a few years, as long as he didn’t have to work in sales. His dad hired him and immediately threw him in the sales department.

In 1994 SC Johnson offered the Hagedorn family $400 million in cash to buy Miracle-Gro, and Jim, by that time an executive, came up with a countermove. What if, instead of selling to the consumer products giant, he proposed a merger with Scotts, a sleepy Ohio business that was six times the size of Miracle-Gro but had slim profits and a market capitalization of only $300 million.

On Jan. 26, 1995 Scotts, run by professional management and owned by institutional shareholders, and much smaller Miracle-Gro merged in a deal that valued Hagedorn’s company at $195 million. It was less than half the price SC Johnson offered, but there was potential upside. In this deal Jim and his family took their entire payment in equity and warrants, giving them a 41% stake in the merged company. Soon after the agreement closed, the Hagedorns learned that Scotts’ management team had been inflating sales figures. The company had to restate its earnings in 1996, and the Hagedorns moved to boot the old management team, replacing them with Miracle-Gro folks, including Jim. Five years later he took the top role himself.

The Hagedorns kept looking for ways to take down competitors or, if that was not possible, to ally with them. In 1998 Scotts Miracle-Gro struck a $32 million deal to sell Monsanto’s herbicide Roundup and a $300 million agreement for pest-killer Ortho. (Today Ortho does nearly $300 million in revenue, and Roundup brings in $70 million in net profit annually.) The next year Hagedorn shelled out another $350 million to acquire lawn and garden companies in the United Kingdom and new markets like France, Germany and the Netherlands. By 2009 Scotts Miracle-Gro controlled more than half of the market in consumer pesticides, fertilizers, soils and grass seeds.

Without a hint of irony in his voice, Hagedorn compares the lawn and garden business to warfare. “Oh, dude, in a lot of ways, I think it’s better,” he says. “Today the way wars happen, you don’t get to keep all the stuff. To me this is one where in commercial combat you kind of rape and pillage, and you keep all of the stuff.”
Former F-16 fighter pilot Hagedorn often pilots himself 500 miles by plane and 30 miles by helicopter from Long Island to his office in Ohio. Photo by Stephen Webster.

THAT’S HAGEDORN. Wildly offensive, hard-charging and, as even those who detest him admit, deceptively smart. He flies a plane named F-Bomb, draws business lessons from Osama bin Laden (“a massive piece of crap” but “a visionary”) and compares himself to the protagonist in the Showtime series Billions (“so focused on winning that he’s a little bit of an animal”).

There is a softer side. Just ask him about his family. From 1995 to 2007 Hagedorn flew back to Long Island every weekend to see his wife and three kids but spent most of his time in Ohio. After his daughter died in 2007, he started commuting back and forth every day so that he could be home for dinner every night. He typically flies with no one but his German shepherd, Scout, who rides on a built-in dog bed next to Hagedorn’s seat in the cockpit.

“There’s not another Scotts, and there’s not another Jim Hagedorn,” says Mark Baker, a former president of the company. “He is intense. He’s very smart. He’s sometimes exuberant, sometimes brutal–all in the same sentence, same day, same minute.”

Hagedorn’s temperament has gotten him in trouble before. In 2011 he told a Wall Street Journal reporter off the cuff that he wanted to target the medical marijuana market. When the story hit the press, Scotts board members
were shocked–both by the idea (which they immediately shot down) and the fact that Hagedorn had told a reporter about it before telling them.

Two years later the board was in turmoil for a different reason. On June 3, 2013 Scotts Miracle-Gro announced the resignation of three directors and explained the departures in an awkwardly worded SEC filing. All three had resigned “following a unanimously-supported reprimand of Hagedorn that stemmed from the use of inappropriate language,” the statement said, but none of the departures were “related to any disagreement relating to the company’s operations, policies, practices or financial reporting.”

Although the details of what exactly occurred remained secret for years, even to Scotts’ employees, the abrupt resignations of three board members certainly raised eyebrows. “They were the three strongest and the three most willing to challenge Jim,” says one former senior executive.

In reporting this story, FORBES uncovered publicly for the first time what actually happened. While discussing the movie Django Unchained with a newly hired African-American employee, Hagedorn repeatedly said the N-word, which is frequently used in the film. After receiving a complaint, the board of directors launched an investigation into the incident. The inquiry quickly expanded into a larger review of the “tone at the top” of the organization, sparking a war among board members. In the end the board issued Hagedorn a unanimous reprimand, but he remained CEO. The African-American employee at the center of the episode left Scotts Miracle-Gro and was paid undisclosed millions as part of a severance package that included nondisclosure covenants. Contacted by FORBES, she declined to comment.

“The catalyst for this whole problem was me,” Hagedorn says. “I get that. I’m not super-apologetic about what happened. I wouldn’t do it again.”

The incident left the board less independent than it had been. Altogether 6 board members have left since 2013. Meanwhile only 4 new directors have joined Scotts, shrinking the board from 12 people to 10, including Hagedorn, who serves as chairman, and his twin sister, Katherine Hagedorn Littlefield, who is vice chairman.

“Listen, I want to respect the board,” Hagedorn says. “I don’t really feel like I have to get a lot of s— from the board.”

BACK ON LONG ISLAND, just minutes from the Hagedorn family compound, sits the command center for Scotts’ marijuana mission, set up in a nondescript white block building. The only sign that anyone of consequence is inside is the 1967 pastel-yellow Alfa Romeo convertible sitting outside. It belongs to Jim’s 31-year-old son, Chris, who is charged with turning his father’s wild idea into a reality.

If the Hagedorn family didn’t own 27% of Scotts Miracle-Gro, Chris would not have his current job as president of subsidiary Hawthorne Gardening. When he was a teenager, he read an article explaining how the first generation typically creates a family business, the second generation expands it, and the third ruins it. So he decided to stay away from Scotts Miracle-Gro. He studied history at Bowdoin College, where he was admitted with help from his father, who knew the president. After graduation he spent three years in advertising, writing commercials for fast-food hamburgers, then quit to write a novel. He ended up playing a lot of videogames instead. Eventually he got married and, while riding in the cockpit on the way back from his wedding, gave in and asked his father about joining the company. Jim put him in the marketing department (which Chris didn’t like), then eventually switched him over to the unit that oversees hydroponics (which he found more interesting).

“As far as I was concerned, it was just a toe in the water, but [Jim] may have had other ideas,” says Alan Barry, who served on the Scotts board of directors from 2009 until his retirement in 2015. “This was Jim’s way of creating a job opportunity for his son. And it was small, and it would have no measurable impact on the company.”
Twenty-eight years after dad Horace (in portrait) gave him a job at Miracle-Gro, Jim installed son Chris as head of his own subsidiary.

Chris’ role expanded quickly. Last year he helped lead the $120 million acquisition of General Hydroponics, which proved to be a tumultuous deal. The day before the agreement was to be finalized, Scotts’ outside lawyers refused to sign off. Their problem: Even though General Hydroponics did not sell marijuana, its founder had been growing cannabis as part of a side R&D operation. Jim Hagedorn wanted to pay the founder a consulting fee to continue working on his research for Scotts Miracle-Gro. But the lawyers refused to go along with it. Seeing no other option, Hagedorn agreed to leave the research out altogether and wrapped up the deal. That legal team has not worked on any Scotts’ hydroponics deals since.

Undeterred, Hagedorn recently paid $120 million for a 75% stake in an Amsterdam-based lighting and hydroponics equipment outfit.

If Hagedorn’s antics don’t get in the way, his pot strategy may prove to be a success. General Hydroponics and its sister company, Vermicrop, brought in just $50 million in revenues when Scotts bought them in 2015. Now part of Chris’ subsidiary, the two companies have already increased sales by more than 20%, roughly four times the growth rate of the rest of Scotts, and operating margins are on track to be about 30% higher than the company average this year. The core business has been performing better lately as well, with profits up 50% since Hagedorn fired more than half of his management team in the last four years. Scotts Miracle-Gro shares have increased 13% in the past year (versus -1% for the S&P 500).

This spring Miracle-Gro took its pot plan on the road. It began selling a new line of hydroponics equipment and soils called Black Magic (created by a scientist at the General Hydroponics office) in 141 Home Depot stores across Colorado and Washington (states where recreational pot is legal) and Michigan (where medical marijuana is legal). A bag of Black Magic costs $16, more than twice as much as typical potting soil. Vegetable growers may not notice much of a difference, and most wouldn’t bother paying the higher price. But one pound of cannabis is worth more than $2,000, meaning the calculus for growing weed is much different than it is for growing tomatoes. With that sort of math on his side, Chris predicts his division will someday be a billion-dollar business. The TV spot that launched Black Magic features tattooed growers working under neon lamps late at night to cultivate leafy greens. It first aired on Apr. 20, the unofficial holiday for weed smokers everywhere.

There are plenty of other opportunities, too. Take pesticides. Since marijuana is still a Schedule I drug, the federal government has not approved any pesticides for use on the plant, so growers are using corn pesticides as a substitute. But production at marijuana facilities keeps getting shut down by authorities, who are fine with businesses selling weed in certain states but don’t want people smoking dangerous chemicals. Scotts Miracle-Gro is now working with state governments to secure federal registrations that will indicate which pesticides can be used safely on cannabis. The ultimate plan: roll out a line of branded pesticides specifically designed for pot.

Hagedorn has not given up on growing his own marijuana, either. He is already looking into foreign markets like Israel, Canada and Jamaica, where Scotts might be able to legally set up labs to test its products and conduct cannabis research. Hagedorn’s most eye-opening idea: someday expanding the company’s research on genetics into cannabis to create GMO marijuana. Showing an ounce of restraint, he says he is not ready to run that idea by the company’s directors–yet.

Still he’s got his hand firmly on the throttle. “I’m pretty dominant and forceful here,” he says. “I admit, I’m an acquired taste. There are certain people who would say, ‘I wouldn’t want Hagedorn going out with my daughter. I don’t like how he runs the business.’ ” None of that deters him.

Hey BB members and future gromies!
My name is Random. :speedy:
Some of you may know me from over at the Stax site but either way its great to be here!
After befriending Limonene he suggested I come and kick it with y'all here at BB.
Great to have a new place to learn and share experiences with.
I love this community and am always happy to communicate and work together with other community members to achieve our genetic goals.
Us seed junkies have to stick together!

Hope to meet all of you eventually and feel free to message me anytime about anything!
:detective:

Good Vibes!
-Random aka @open_source_seed_grower(Instagram)
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Mendo Breath - Midnight Farms Cut
Day 52 - 11/13 light cycle

Gettinhg the Indoor rooms back up and running! just picked up 44 cuts 15 GSC, 15 FireOG, 8 OG-9,2 DJBB, 2 DiabloOG, 1 Larryog, 1MarsOG.. Damn almost forgothow much work it is.. mixing soil.. filling 40+ containers Laying everything out..So for this round I was a bit shy on $$ couldn't afford all the coco I would need to post this in the hydro journals. So I ended up going with the ole standby Promix #4 and put about 1/2 as much more perlite so it's at a 2-1 ratio..:horse::dancing:

Hey peeps..
My bbay fan I love so much..
Always a great thing to know when you put out needed info, they'll be multiple people w/in 24 hrs that will help.. give t 3-4 days.. a lot of info up..
Love you guys.. new guys too.. all seem cool..

Im looking for people that know about electronics a decent amount:

Okay… first.. let me say what Im looking to build.. Im first of all, %1000 cool w/ a hybrid system, such as a few high quality T5 PowerVEG bulbs added to my spectrum and some 6500K to make it full.

Anybody here make a nice DIY LED system, thats actually like a good price and proper..
I can do basic electronics.. Im thinking of building by own, w/ something like %50 white LEDs, %25 Reds, %25 blues, a few UVB in there, probably split the whet between like a 6500K and 5000K rating.. if I can.. or just all 650..
Then either built in or on each side 1-2 x 2" PowerVEG HO T5 Hortilux bulbs.. they kick ass. If I could stick 1 in the middle, and then a double on each side, 1 just reg 6500K & 1 PV.. would make a nice light..

Ie hear ALL-WHITE (aka full spectrum{ but only visible}).. are sick.. and seem they would be.. I always mix a MH in w/ HPS. when I had a partner years back, he had 2 400W MH w/ Hortilux BLUE bulbs on each side my Hortilux Super HPS 600W.. was a nice setup.

I currently have a 315W CMH w/ my Galaxy 600W digital ballast I run a 600W HPS in.. I need to replace that alb soon.. but I want something more in my lighting.. i wads looking at a 4x4 HO T% system.. to put on the other side of the HPS, makingg that in the middle, w/ 2 white, full spectrum lights, all mixing though the room.. I loe what mixing spectrums gives you.. field and quality.. I think an LED setup would be good to put on the other side my CMH.
bigger footprint more PAR, not much more electric.

I don't know whether to go for a cheap, but decent seeming light off amazon, a DIY,,
And for electronic people.. I have an old 400W MH magnetic balled not being used.. could I use that to run 400W or less (buying resistors? , I don't kow).. and power a DIY LED system off it.. leaving just the bulbs and frame/reflectore to make, to pay for? not the T%s, just the LEDs.. say I built a 400W pull LED system, which would be a perfect n=mount for what I want.. It'd replace probably 750W HPS, if added T5s, maybe close to 1KW lamp, Im guessing, happy w/ 750..

Anybody that can help, Id love to hear it..
Ive watched a decent amount of YT links to DIY LEDs, but I want to know if anyones don't it here, and hoes and results vs what?….

Im about to go in bloom in 2 wks or less, and I will handlee it, decent w/ the 915W bloom power, but a 3rd light would be great at a cheap price..
Any good reviews of cheap pre-built lights are MORE than welcome..
Thanks..


Thanks fellas.

-peace
Half-step

Well, ive seen a few grows of the Gooey Girls now and the Sour Goo was so popular i sold out of seeds, more on the way..

I have been very busy of late back an forth between grow facilities

here's what I have been upto.. and what you can expect to find as free seeds with future purchases. I will give them out as free seeds until they are documented at which point they will go on sale..

The Males..

Blueberry Blast ( Snowhigh) was used to pollinate

Amnesia Haze ( Amnesia Blast) * tested on sale soon
Stardawg KK ( Sour Blast) * on test now
Blue Coffin ( Blue Blast) * yet to be harvested
UK Pineapple ( Pineapple Blast) * next to be tested
Super Lemon Haze 9 ( Lemon Blast) * to be harvested

Amnesia OG ( Norstar)

This strain impressed me with its yield and heavy terpene profile A stinky male was found out of 5 males, he has sticky stems and stinks.Amnesia Haze ( Amnesia Bx)
Amnesia Goo ( Amnesia Bx 2)
Gooey Vuitton ( Diesel Bx)
Stardawg KK ( Diesel Bx 2)
Girl Scout Cookies
Cantaloupe Skunk


The Reversed Females

Gooey Vuitton - GV
Super Lemon Haze (9 weeker) SLh9
Amnesia goo AmGoo

GVuitton x Gv
Super Lemon Haze x Gv
Stardawg X GV
Chiesel X GV
Super Lemon Diesel x GV
Amnesia x Gv
Blue Coffin x Gv
cheese x GV

SLH9 x SLH9
super Lemon Diesel x SLH9

Amnesia x Amgoo
Pineapple x AmGoo



there you have it,

a nice selection of hybrids in the pipeline...

I will list them at the new seed store so you can choose which free test seeds you want when you make a purchase.

regards

Pistils

Hi guys as some of you know I've been busy making seeds again,
So after much messing around I finally managed to reverse my uk pineapple , didn't get much pollen but enough to get seeds from every plant in the tents

Here is the list of what I crossed with the pineapple
U.K. Pineapple
Bo baracas (1990)super skunk sensi seeds
Lemon drizzle
Gooey
Ggc
Cookie and cream
Agent orange
Amhurst diesel
London city diesel
Orange diesel
Pynamite
Gg4
Chocolope
Sonic boom
Sour goo

Not giving out any testers as its my job to test them and not my job to give them out only to be thrown in a sock draw or grown in 5 years . I'm never releasing any thing that has not been fully tested by my self , once tested I will send free seeds out for grow reports ,
My goal with doing this is to have strong skunk genes bigger yeilds and flavours to mix with all the crap yielding branching but super tasty hushes, I just needed some tools for the job and I'm hoping the pineapple will give me these and hopefully find some thing new along the way . All seeds are being winterised at the mo , dr high pants as planted a few , I guess he'll put up a thread when they get going .

Well as im getting older it seems the need to participate in large gatherings of people has increased,so im off to Boomtown festival this year.

channel one meets Mad Professor
Ozric Tentacles plus The Orb are doing sets in the psychedelic forest,
The Orb are currently doing the Album Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld live,
I've listened to that Orb album so many times over the years it does seem like a theme tune to my 20's
so i'll be there in a quiet corner trying not to look all ancient and covered in moss,

last time i was jumping about like a looney at the Acid Techno graveyard showing the young uns a move or 2, mainly the funky chicken meets the Walking Dead,

theres a bunch of Dirty Dorises from London going that im hooking up with,
they can out drink,outrdrug most grown men and party till the sunrises,
but 5 London birds does sound like it should be called a heckle or a swarm,

its not until the 11th Aug and i'll take some pics if i can focus enough,
last time i thought i was taking great photos,
but all i was doing was holding the camera up and turn it off,
i've got the hang of it now so theres no excuses.

anybody off anywhere nice??

Got more getting popped but these three have been up potted and are on there way to flower
Group shot

BandaidxDurban #1


BandaidxDurban #2 -short outlier pheno



BadaidxDurban #3

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Well guys, these past few months have been trying to say the least... I was elated coming into the Spring to be granted tester RKU, LA Affie, and (most of all) Jack Wook testers from bodhi. Aside from that, the treasure chest of beans I've been collecting throughout the years I finally was starting a Spring again in a legal spot and was anxious to get things going. On the top of the list also were some Apollo 11 genius pheno F4s from Bodhi as well.

Well so the Spring started and I was living in a sweet one bedroom right on the corner of Aspen on highway 82 into the mountains in the direction of independence pass, not far out of town though. My landlords up stairs are cool as can be couple in their late 30s early 40s. Party a lot for people of that age, but hell, it's Aspen. So anyway, their lease on the house was coming to an end and I had the itch and just had started some beautiful RKU x Wook testers, some Pineapple Fields from Dynasty, a single bean I had from a dank real deal Girl Scout Cookie bagseed that was frosty as hell and lost from mites from bas clone in the room so crossed her the uber vigorous Afwreck x Chrystal Trident male from mini/bodhi and got this one seed to pop, some KO Kush/Star Kush x Sunshine Daydream from swank, and an old favorite from a bbay member Bubba Old Time Moonshine x Yo Momma.

As that lease came to an end I had been looking for the right place to set up a decent grow in the valley, nothing came up in any moderate price range. Mind you, i was paying $2000 for my small one bedroom. I have a Widespread Panic buddy that I had met in NOLA over a Jazz Fest a few years about through this groovy chick that I've been friends with for ages. Anyway, he lived in Fort Collins and said he had a temp spot at one of his bud's houses that he used to live in now just grows in... so I couldnt have my ladies. But I thought i was cool, as it was only $400 a month. My landlords mom is this awesom 60-70 year old swedish american lady that is just so awesome and was gonna run some who knows what bagseeds she had found so I gladly gave my babies and few testers to her and she's killing it! She has half of them on the patio, my GSC cross with the Haterade is bigger by leaps and bounds she said. Which really surprised me because I thought the GSC woudl take over and have it be all small. but nope. and she also said the smells are amazing. sharp spir and licorice syrupy sour sweet. Also, a couple of them are with her good friend that has a lot of land on the hillside below the mountain with great sun downvalley. I'm excited to go see them in a few weeks to help her transplant from 10 gals to move to the farm to trim and train big time after transplanting into 25 or 50 gals.

But back to moving to and living in Fort Collins. Things are going well. Working part time and looking to find a place to live that would work to have my hobby grow. I am only ppaying $400 a month but it's temporary like i had said. The kids he had living there are kinda a bummer. Get drunk and belig and just I'm past that scene. And it's fine. But it seemed since day one because I was buddies' with the guy that rented me the house and the fact that I got the room, while evidently he was trying to get his friend to move in. The other room was a guy like me looking for a temp cheap place to live and since the dude grew in the basement, it's just cheaper and easier without a lease. He told me i had til the 15th of July bc he was starting to show the place in August right after this now harvest. While living there my bud who's house it is told me that I could start my seedlings just not have or move em into his special area, which was perfect. I started my Apollo 11s, Jack Wooks, Tigers Milk, Yo Mama, and a few other strains prepping for the move. All seedlings were about 7-10 days old. So last friday was the 15th, my last day. I had permission to keep my stuff in the closet and safe and my small amount of shit organized and ready until my lease begins at the end of this week. I dont sleep there the 15th and wake up to a call from my rooommate while im in a hotel after string cheese incident in red rocks, he tells me not to freak out. evidently the roommate who had beef with me for whatever reason at like 4am took all my shit out of my room tv, t5 grow lights, vortex fans, clothes, all the seedlings in solo cups just thrown under my clothes. I get there the next morning to them all being in a huge pile in the garage. I dont know how I kept my composure but it was just like the biggest kick to the gut.
The apollos and jack wooks were just exaactly what i wanted to do this first killer CO grow of my own done right under the right lights in the right room done my way. Blah. It just sucks. I really didnt want to fight the kid or anything like that. It's just, I had driven him and I to do laundry like 3 days before and we had had some beers and split a monster sammy and chilled... I dunno. He's just always been so passive and then gets drunk and all geeked on blow and just rages. But never before towards me. Fuck. I'm just kinda in the shitter with all this. I was working on getting a possible seed bank started after buying a domain but then I moved to FoCo and see that the only other bank similar to the one I would be starting breeder wise was from FoCo. lol. he's even a member of the bay. Met him a couple weeks back and surprisingly a southerner as well lol. But I dunno guys. I'm just struggling getting this all right. Lol i miss those plants I started in Aspen, and I feel sick losing those babies.. I really more than anything just enjoy spending time running my own garden, pheno hunting, clone hunting (with legit sources), dialing in my medium, and working the perfect feed and supplement regime. It's funny, bc some of the best bud that I try out here.. just isn't from dispensaries. It seems, even more so than aspen, flowers from shops just in general are more commercial in nature (how surprising). This past week got some old school columbian gold, alaskan thunderfuck, and some sweet fluffy sticky gooey sweet strain.. shit i wish i knew what that was haha. but it reminded me kinda how my bud was but, all his bud had his quality and his growing method and feeding trademark in that came through in the looks and density and flavor if that makes sense just like mine does and commercial growers do. I dunno. Just how I loved that guys headstash, I love making mine for medical patients and connoisseurs alike.
Anyways, well guys. I've also been worried a bit bc i've been moving a bit with my seeds. They're all in their packs in a big tupperware that has rice in it in the fridge but I'm worried bc they've been in and out of that thing a lot now moving and I'm worried that it will mess with their enzymes especially the older beans from like 2011

Well, Bodhi, I think I may have a couple RKU Wooks to test otherwise here's the one from grandma in Aspen, they're both on the right. The Pineapple Fields by Dynasty on the left and the GSC Bagseeds x Chrystal Throttle (Afwreck x bodhi's Chrystal Trident)that i made. and of course the RKU Wook on the right.

Anyways guys, I know bodhi said he isnt carrying the Apollo 11s anymore bc of Mr Soul but if yall know anyone with old stock of it around or Jack x Wooks. lol holler

Thanks for the chance bodhi. I'm going to get the LA Affie test started officially to christen the new spot at the end of this week in hopes that lease application fully goes through in light of just moving onward and upward moving past this tumultuous time of my life. Ugh in the end it just sucks. I was itching more than anythng to test those two strains well.. the tigers milk as well. But in the end, when moving from aspen.. I'm happy at least the other testers kept going strong and at 12 weeks. Those RKU Wooks were looking great. The other one's downvalley on that hill are supposedly monsters that smell like fresh lavendar berry spice. The man's loving em. I really hope to get down there once everythings settled up here in the next month to help train and transplant em. All in all, those Wooks are loving the high elevation and afternoon rains followed by high altitude sunshine rays. :hitwall1:
now we move onto part 3 of the Wook testers LA Affy. to be continued.lol

Snapped a pic of one of my Huckleberry Space Queen nearing the end of week 7. I got super lucky with 7 ladies from this 10 pack. I think this one is Huckleberry dominant. The others have way bigger flowers and look very different. Super easy to grow!



More to come closer to harvest!

Hello Everyone,

I was lucky enough recently to score a pack of Herijuana x Good Medicine beans from SVOC. Decided to grow them outdoors this year, so seven seeds were germinated back in late April, six of them are still alive today.

All six of the surviving plants were tested for THC/CBD ratios at a local lab. Fortunately, one of them came back as CBD rich, the results are posted below!!



However, the remaining five plants tested as THC dominant, with little to no detectable CBD. I was kinda surprised that only 15% of the seeds tested positive for CBD, maybe its a fluke?

I was hoping to find out if Bodhi or anyone else happens to know the THC/CBD ratio of the Good Medicine male that is being used in these crosses? I have read in other threads where Good Medicine is testing CBD rich in roughly 2/3 of the seed population, but can't find any data regarding this specific male.

Cheers,
lumo

Hello Everyone,

Mr. and Mrs. B were gracious enough to bless us with some testers a while back. I apologize in advance for not running these sooner....on with the show

5 SourButterscotch x G13HP seeds were germinated on April 24th. 100% germination. 1 of them didn't break soil, and three others were male. I have one surviving female plant that will be grown outdoors in a 25 gallon pot, heavily fed with dry organic nutrients. South Willamette Valley, 45N.

Here she is on July 21st. She's been in this pot for approximately one week.


Looking down on the tops. The main stem was cut and used to determine sex.


Finally, the crown. I love the deep rich green glow.


Many thanks for the opportunity to test these beans. I will run the rest of the pack indoors once the weather cools a little bit.

_lumo_

Hi folks am back after having most of the year off, I did a silver haze and Kali weed grow, the yield I had was awesome from the cuttings, ounces and ounces of recreation time lol now am back with blue haven and northern lights cross haze, will get some pics sorted soon, peace to all :smoke06:

some great participants this month :gallery: :canabis:

thanks everyone for entering.
voting is now open
good luck
:)


ITeachYourKids! - Dark Desire


Limonene - GSC


DAGGA - Imperial Spice


DMGP - Salmon River OG


strayfox - Ninja Turtles


4u2sm0ke - bustin loose


420 Homestead - Pink Persuasion


Kaotik - Satori


mtman - Mt Hood Huckleberry


bamboodan - Cheshire Kush


Dice - Purple Sour Diesel


Green Supreme - Cannachronic

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Grab the popcorn kiddos, here we go!

As always, thanks and blessings to Mr and Mrs B for the opportunity. I've been camping on this report for a while now, my apologies.

Guava Stardawg x Apollo 11 - germinated 100% on Dec. 24th. A few that germinated did not break through the soil though, this is primarily my fault. Live and learn.

Here are two of the girls, about 6weeks from breaking soil.








This was my first actual run as a tester, and I must apologize for the large lapses in time. Here are a few of the boys, 10 weeks old.



Blood Orange male standing next to them.


One of the girls, around the same age, showing sex.




A boy, showing early under 18/6. He was culled


One of the girls, trimmed waaaay back for clones and to expose more bud sites. Its extreme, I know.


Here she is again.


Different girl, same story.




This is one of the boys, at 13 weeks or so from birth. He and his brother were taken outside to mature.







14 weeks.


15 weeks.


Few more pics of the boys, then on to the girls....

I took some pics of my Purple Mayhem (by Gooeybreeder) to share with Pistils, but then I realized I should just post a thread so everyone can see.

Currently at day 39, she goes 9 weeks. She will color in more as she goes, finishing a bright red/purple with a scent that's hard to put your finger on. Pine is usually how I describe it. Anyway, enjoy!

Hey all!

Got my spring bodhi testers popped and ready to document. This time it's Chem D x Sunshine Daydream. I'll update monthly for veg and every two weeks for flower. See you around!

In case anyone missed it heres Mr.B on the Adam Dunn show,
(might be easier searching it in case the link don't work)

The Adam Dunn Show - ...at the Crossroads of Cannabis Culture & the Mainstream